Emails & Questions
Q: If you can help me the understanding. If the Father made Yahshua who is my refuge, does the Father exist before the son and does it lead us to believe what the Father was creating things before the son? I’m reading Psalms 91:9
A: From what I can tell the Son did not exist, as we know Him, in the flesh until He came in the flesh, born of woman, becoming, essentially, a new creation. Before this, however, our Lord and Savior was with the Father from the Beginning, Identified as the Living Word of God the Father, by whom all things were created.
(Eph 3:9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God (the Father), who created all things by YaHshua the Christ: KJV
What happens in the OT is that we find prophetic remarks concerning our Savior to come in the future -- He came and died and was raised back to life and then returned to Heaven as a new creation but also one that would be restored to His previous glory, as the Creator of all things by the power and authority of the Father. When we read Ps91 as a prophetic run, we can see that it is still a future event, only partially fulfilled. This cannot be applied to King David as David suffered as many of us do in the flesh, even our Lord suffered torture and death, but read verses 7 and 8. Then ask when did this ever happen? When YaHshua returns as Lord of all Lords and King of all Kings He will personally witness tens of thousands dying on His left and right. Has anyone seen this? No, but He will when He returns and He will then witness the destruction of the wicked, and then, so will we and so, vicariously we will experience this defeat of the wicked through Him.
It is interesting that this chapter is the one Satan quoted while tempting YaHshua -- Satan dared YaHshua throw Himself from the cliff to prove He was the Messiah because it was written that the angels would care for Him so as He would not stumble over so much as a stone -- verses 10-12 -- YaHshua responded that to tempt the Father was a sin and with this Satan's mouth was shut up. This, however, points to these verse having to do with YaHshua and from that point of view -- looking from the time the PS was written forward, demonstrates a fulfillment our Lord has not seen yet, but will.
Remember, before YaHshua came in the flesh He was with the Father, and we are told He was with the Father from the very beginning of all things. He was called the WORD of God, the word of God the Father. And by the Word, who became YaHshua in the Flesh, all things were created. You have read Eph 3:9 already now consider this verse --
(Col 1:15-16) Who is the image of the invisible God (The Father), the firstborn of every creature: For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him:
(John 1:2-3) The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(John 1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.