(1Co 14:34)  Let your women keep silence in the churches (ecclesia, the body of those called out): for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also said the law.

(Col 3:1-5)  If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.  For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.  When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.  Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Women claiming to be prophets and apostles are a shame and a sham.  Dreamers and visionaries of the things spiritual and that may or may not be true, but from which SPIRIT?  Satan is a Spirit and appears as an angel of LIGHT, and it is no big deal that his human minions appear as something they are not --

We need to stay in the Word already delivered.  Go back and read our Lord’s Prayer recorded in John 17, read it over and over and see what He is saying.  That prayer is the true, Lord's Prayer and it will help anyone seeking the truth to remove the Fog of false Religion.   

There is a certain female Evangelist that readily admits that women are easier to deceive than men, that it is in their genetic makeup, in their DNA from the beginning -- her words, her teaching and as Elizabeth Sherrie, she makes claims beyond the clear words of the True Aposltes.  She sees herself as a chosen Elder in the Church, a called "Disciple" to preach and teach, not only men but to a special calling to and for other women to take postitions in the Body of Christ as leaders.   Who? Monica Dennington, if you need to know. This is incredible reasoning and like many teachings from the enemy, the words admit the truth and then introduce the lie or lies -- just as the Serpent did in the Garden -- tell a truth, then back it up with a lie, or use the truth to promote a lie and if accepted, then the deception may begin.  But, why would she, a self proclaimed Leader and teacher of both men and women, setting up herself as an Elder or Pastor or Apostle, say such a thing?  Perhaps, to limit her competition?  Her admission is amazing, considering her own desire to teach as she reasons that women should not be taking up leadership roles in the Church.  Get it, she will speak for the women she says should remain silent -- she will be the mouth for both men and women, sacrificing herself for the good of those desiring to do what she is doing, she will take on that burden, that sin, for you.  

The true chosen will not defile themselves with women – comes to mind --


That verse can mean actual contact with women in a sexual way and it can be applied to mean other “Churches” which are seen figuratively as “women”.  Either way this verse suggests the station of women in the Body of the Messiah to be subdued not one of exaltation – certainly not a female Apostle, deacon or Elder.

Nowhere in the New Covenant do we see women as Deacons, Elders and certainly never as an Apostle.  The office of Apostles has already been fulfilled by those called personally by and personallyt associated with YaHshua Himself in His earthly ministry.  An Apostle is one that has been personally taught by YaHshua for a minimum of 3.5 years and no one outside of the original 12, save Paul (Saul), has fulfilled this requirement – even then Paul was taught by YaHshua for a period of 3 + years after he was personally called by YaHshua to be the Apostles to the Gentiles.  Why was Paul called up for this service?  Because the other Apostles, in their personal predjudices and pressures from the Jewish religious leaders they were reluctant to serve the Gentiles.  (Acts 9:15, Acts 22:21, Gal 1:15-18, Rom 15:16)

(Gal 2:9)  ...and when James and Cephas (Peter) and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given to me (Paul), they gave the right hand of fellowship to Barnabas and me, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.  (This had already been decided by our Savior YaHshua, but Paul is showing political respect to those that they and others considered to be the chief leaders in the Church.  Paul is not impressed by any ot them)

All modern, so called, Apostles are fakes and frauds – the Apostles of YaHshua form the foundation Stone of the New Jerusalem, this alone proves only they have the right to be called Apostles of YaHshua.  

(Rev 21:14)  And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

(2Co 6:16)  What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, "I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

(1Pe 2:5)  you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through YaHshua the Christ.

There were some women, self proclaimed prophets, who mostly babble about things already revealed.  Violating the plain instructions from the New Testament they seek to teach in the meetings and gatherings of the congregation rattling on about things they have no knowledge of.  Don't be offended, I know of as many men that babble on and on too.  Yes, women can be teachers, and I have learned from some but they are to remain silent in the meetings.  I have read some pretty informative and even inspired books by female teachers, but this does not qualify them to be ministers or religious heads taking over the responsibilities of the men.  

Some of these false men and women jump up and down or run around in circles or plant themselves on the floor, all claiming to be led by the spirit, to be drunk on the spirit even -- they do not often say which spirit.  All ignoring the clear teaching that women are not allowed to speak in the Church when it comes to religious matters, least of all act like fools.  The great deceiver, pictured sitting on the Beast is described as a woman drunk on the blood of the saints.  It is a woman that sits on the Seven Headed Beast.  The order of things is the Christ as the head of the man, the man is head of the woman, what is so hard to understand.  But, what do we see today?  Women taking charge, and is this something new?  No, this is nothing new, and when this happens it is usually on the downside of a failing society.

(Isa 3:12)  Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path.

(Tit 2:3-5)  The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

Oh, right, I forgot, we live in modern times.  Nothing is new under the sun and just like the verse already quoted from Isaiah we see a time before, even before YaHshua came in the flesh, when children became the oppressors of the men of God and women became their rulers, and how did that turn out?  As men, we came from woman and all have mothers and if we cannot find any other way to show respect for our women let it be all women as our mother in our eyes, even our wives and with this our women will respect us as men and husbands too.  No man hates his own flesh and when a man is joined with a woman they become one flesh.  But this is not what we are talking about, this question and answer is about women that can be deceivers and be deceived as well as anyone.  But, in todays "modern" climate this is a subject that is politically and religiously taboo -- Just like in the days of Isaiah, sad but true.  The world does what the world does but if you are part of a religious community you can still correct what has gone astray and if you can't -- like I said before -- expose them and then get out.

Clear your mind, Mike, ask our Heavenly Father for the wisdom to see through all of this and not to be caught up in the flood of hate and misdirection, so you do not drown in the evil Satan has brought to the world.  Peace, and I pray He comes soon and straightens this all out, but for now, we have His words and the words of His true Apostles, read them, listen to them and get out of this Fog called man's religion -- Dan

A more detailed expose of this false prophetess, Elizabeth, can be found at:  http://www.midnightinamerica.net/docs/lit/mw/mw-een.htm